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How Much Fred Aprim is admired among the Assyrians? Gone down the GUTTER.

Posted By: Nissan Odisho (0-1pool190-13.nas24.tempe1.az.us.da.qwest.net)
Date: Saturday, 10 June 2006, at 10:41 p.m.

Bravo Nineve.

He's a paid puddle, never give up, and never speaks the truth. Just a paid puddle! But his reputation is down the gutter, that is ....Fred Aprim

Now read below a reply by Ms. Nineve to the Zawaa puddle (courtesy of Kha Aina smeeta)
Bravo Nineve.

Fred,

Your heart and mind may be in the right place but today's ADM brought this tragic end to the Zawaa of past years which Assyrians were so proud of and supported.

It's unfortunate that you've become just a defensive,aggressive person.

You asked questions,here are the answers and if you answer back hopefully it will be in a civilized manner because we don't need to take out our differences and frustrations on each other.

I just want to ask a simple question: How could any one who claim to be an Assyrian show jubilation on various media outlets because the KDP and Barazani marginalized the ADM (ZOWAA), the biggest and most supported Assyrian group by Assyrians?

*** It doesn't take much to know that those people who are now in Occupied Assyria and the Baghdad government aren't representing the Assyrians but rather the kur.s and arabs.

*** Those of us who support Assyria's Cause and its people would ofcourse want to see Assyrians representing the Assyrians but you can't sit there either and claim that today's ADM didn't bring this upon itself.When today's ADM leadership felt that it had some sort of "power"(ofcourse because of the false sense of empowerment and security given to it by the kur.s) it began to alienate itself from all the Assyrians around it and became aloof concentrating only on its own selfish needs rather than scoping what its Assyrian population was yearning for.This in turn created a negative reaction because no one saw any more that today's ADM was representing the interests of the Assyrians,in addition to all the mess which this "leadership" had created whether instigated by those whom it thought to be its "allies" or those whom it supported such as the newly created "chaldean" parties.Look now at the result of such behavior,attitude and narrow horizon.

Don't these fools understand that if we allow the KDP to marginalize the biggest Assyrian group, then those small and insignificant groups will be crushed like mosquitoes and flies when Barazani finishes from using them and their purpose for remaining is completed?

*** You are correct,once this new group of individuals serves its purpose they will be replaced with another just like they did with today's ADM.It doesn't matter how large or small the group is when it doesn't have any influence it can be replaced.

Do these smaller and insignificant Assyrian groups and individuals that are completely submitting to the KDP trying to makes us believe that they are going somewhere? Are Assyrians that naïve to believe that the KDP and Barazani is going to honor Assyrian rights and demands because Fawzi Hariri, Nimrod Baito, Sargis Aghajan, BNDP, APP, etc., and their likes are in government? Seriously?

*** Again correct but when today's ADM was in the same position as those individuals today and the kur.s were not honoring the Assyrians' legitimate rights,why then there weren't voices attacking such practices (excluding what you had accumulated).

*** Why there was that silence of death on the part of today's ADM leadership which let all that Assyrian blood be stepped on without being dealt with in an apporpriate manner?

Damn us, how could any decent Assyrian be happy seeing the marginalization of the biggest Assyrian group regardless to how one feels about the ADM? How could we?

*** Excuse me,if you like to damn yourself then that's your business but do not include every one else with you,because decent Assyrians are against this latest travesty as they were against the one before.

*** Today's ADM leadership must stand and face its responsibilities,because if as you're accusing the Assyrians of being "naive",that "leadership" shouldn't have been because it knew better in its dealings.

Shame on all of us who sat home and did not give a damn and God bless those who drove more than one day round trip just to say loudly NO to Barazani and the KDP.

*** Too little too late,and you know very well that these protests wouldn't have taken place if those seats were given to today's ADMleadership,at that moment no one could have caredless whether the Assyrians were marginalized or not,their legitimate rights stepped on or stripped of altogether,then you and others would have been at the jubilation end because you would have been bragging that today's ADM got the seats even if those seats were at the expense of Occupied Assyria,the Assyrians' legitimate rights and the invisible demands which were never a part of the agenda.

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How Much Fred Aprim is admired among the Assyrians? Gone down the GUTTER.
Nissan Odisho (0-1pool190-13.nas24.tempe1.az.us.da.qwest.net) -- Saturday, 10 June 2006, at 10:41 p.m.
Re: How Much Fred Aprim is admired among the Assyrians? Gone down the GUTTER.
Persi (ip68-108-15-6.lv.lv.cox.net) -- Saturday, 10 June 2006, at 11:19 p.m.
Who are Silqa Smouqa and Sam Darmu, can anyone tell......
damirchi (1Cust77.tnt6.sfo8.da.uu.net) -- Sunday, 11 June 2006, at 10:50 a.m.
Re: How Much Fred Aprim is admired among the Assyrians? Gone down the GUTTER.
damirchi (1Cust77.tnt6.sfo8.da.uu.net) -- Sunday, 11 June 2006, at 9:55 a.m.
Re: How Much Fred Aprim is admired among the Assyrians? Gone down the GUTTER.
Nissan Odisho (0-1pool199-153.nas26.tempe1.az.us.da.qwest.net) -- Sunday, 11 June 2006, at 3:50 p.m.

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